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Thoughts on Trump

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Rosyrain, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. Rosyrain Atom

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    I must admit that I did not vote for Donald Trump for president, and the thought of him being president makes me a little uneasy. I am working hard to educate myself on who he is and what his political agenda is, in other words, I am giving him a chance.

    I do not agree with the wall he is trying to build or the fact that he is banning certain people from entering into the country temporarily, but I do believe that he was right in saying that power should be given back to the people of America.
     
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    I truly believe that Donald Trump has the best interests of America at heart, and that he will do his best to help us bring back jobs, and take care of our veterans and the low income seniors, as well as those who are homeless.
    The wall between the US and Mexico has been approved since before Obama was elected president; so this is not something new that President Trump is going to do, rather it is something that has been planned for some time now, and just hasn't been built.

    I fully believe that we need security at our borders, and the southern border seems to be where most of the unwanted illegals are coming from, as opposed to arriving here from Canada. Many of these people who sneak across the border are criminals in their own country, who would be imprisoned or executed for murder, rape, or other violent crimes. When they arrive here, they do not suddenly become law-abiding citizens, they continue with their criminal lifestyle.
    Since you live in Washington State, @Rosyrain , you probably heard about the little girl in Idaho who was attacked and gang-raped by illegals who came in across the Mexican border.
    We don't need these kinds of people here, period.
    The ones who are here and working will be allowed to become citizens, and those will be good people to have here in this country.

    Donald Trump already had just about everything a person could ever want in their life, before he even ran for the presidency. He is 70 years old, and is at the age where most people would only be wanting to retire and enjoy their family and luxurious lifestyle .
    Instead, he took on the job of trying to save this country, and all he has received are lies and insults from the mainstream media that have made his life harder, and also have put both Trump and his family at risk of assassination.
    There is no reason in the world for this man to subject himself to all of this at his age that I can see, except that he DOES care about this country, and the people living here.
     
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  3. jimbob Cat Moderator

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    Trump has been in office for only ten days and has really stirred up the world. You gotta' admire that.

    Trump has some good ideas for the USA. Yeah, some bad ones too. With luck he will drop the bad ones and work on getting the good ones moving.
     
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    Like him or loath him, nobody can deny that Trump is doing exactly what he said he would do. Other politicians could do with taking note, as he's done more in the first week in office than what some have done since they started their career, and that can only be a positive thing in my opinion.

    I still don't think that people voted for Trump, they voted for change and it was Trump that offered it to them. Trump should now be given time and we never know, his plans might actually work because lets be honest, nothing that Obama did or Clinton would have done made or would make a difference.
     
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    Well, he showed his Deputy AG that he is boss. He told her to prepare to defend his temporary immigration ban in court. She said she wasn't going to do it. He fired her and appointed someone who said he would do the job assigned him.
     
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    Oh, I think the things Clinton would have done would have made a difference. It just wouldn't have been a good difference. She's probably more socialist than Bernie, but tries to hide her true leanings behind a drape of "moderate" politics. I don't trust her as far as I could throw her.

    I will give Trump a chance. I figure he can't be any worse than any of the others.
     
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    It's not up to a month that Trump was inaugurated into office but the actions he has taken so far keeps people kind of awe and wondering what's he really up to.

    It appears many people in the US and clearly from outside the US are strongly against these steps or actions taken by Trump especially concerning immigration. Hope he rethinks his actions
     
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  8. jimbob Cat Moderator

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    But remember, the order is only temporary until new regulations can be written.
     
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    Donald Trump is one heck of a newsmaker. Starting with his quest for the GOP nomination, intrigues have been hounding him no end that's why people were suprised when he became the last man standing in the Republican convention. And even before he could start campaigning against Hillary Clinton, some of the Republicans were trying to stymie Trump's plans to pursue his candidacy. And during the campaign, oh, there were an endless list of issues thrown at him. Now that he is officially and legally pronounced as president, there are protests against him. I wonder who those people against Trump are feeling now. Maybe worse than the feelings of people against Obama huh.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not siding with Trump. I'm just amused that he gets the limelight all the time. And I think he is one lucky guy who's got the fame and fortune plus a pretty wife.
     
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    All I think that Trump is doing is looking for ways to make the situation better, and while he undoubtedly is going to rub some people up the wrong way, everything the politicians have tried in the past hasn't worked so surely we should give his way a go? The leader of every country needs to look after the people from that country first and foremost, and in recent times that's been lost and not just with America. The governments have been to liberal and cared to much and tried to appease everyone BUT their own people and it had to stop sometime.

    Just because Trump as decided to close the borders to some countries as a temporary measure, doesn't mean that he is saying that EVERYONE from them countries are terrorists, he's saying that's where he (and Obama because it's his list) think where the main threat is coming from. You lock your doors and windows at night, not because you think that everyone is going to walk in and rob you, but it's a precaution you take to make sure you and your family are safe, and that's all that Trump is trying to do.
     
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    New slogan for the Trump protestors:

    "Jump For Trump"

    (Off a bridge, off a building, whatever.)
     
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    I did not vote for Trump, and I am concerned about our nation. I would have had just as much concern if Hillary had been elected (obviously, I did not vote for her either). Neither of these two are good people. I have always considered the president as someone I could look up to, as a role model for my children and neither meets the criteria in even the slightest bit. Hillary lied her way to the candidacy and was filled with ego and deceit. Trump seems to fancy himself some sort of idolistic being, he is manipulative, shovenistic, deceitful, racist, and egotistical. I saw this election as the worst in history.

    This being stated, I want Trump to be successful. It worries me some that he thinks he can change our nation so quickly, as I fear that too much too fast will lead to chaos. Some of his ideas are great, some are very poor. During his short time as president, he has proved that he wants control, and this is very unsettling to me. I am not against Trump but his actions in the near future may sway me that way.

    My biggest fear is that we, as citizens, are becoming so divided by all of this. He is just one man, yet his followers are an army of loyal supporters. And the non-supporters believe so strongly against his ideas that this could lead to a civil tragedy.
     
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    Before commenting on the specific topic, I just wanted to make it clear that I don't understand how so many people can be in favor of him.

    Well, my thoughts on him are definitely not the best (including, some I can't even express through words). I don't see any future for the United States while he is occupying that chair.

    Everything he does brings back something negative (it's a very particular ability of him). Nothing seems to be done with a real interest in improving the country. All he knows is how to use Twitter to complain (demonstrating the level of "maturity" he has).

    It's really annoying to see all that situation... Let's hope for the best.
     
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    Well, Trump did send a peace offer letter to the Chinese and they have graciously accepted the offer. Now to work out the details.
     
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    Most of the international news channels, such as CNN are openly leftist, and naturally they only present the side of any news that they want to give people. Some of the things are totally distorted, and since this is pretty much the only news channels some people see to learn about the United States; their beliefs are totally out of line with what the actual truth is.
    Where it is reported every time that there are protestors somewhere, the news never shows the huge crowds of people who are supporters of the President, and also supported Trump when he was running for office.
    Most of the protestors that you see on news reports are hired and paid to march around with their signs, and not people who are actually missing work to go and protest.
    The countries that have been temporarily banned right now, are many of the same countries that former-president Obama was actually bombing , and NO one was complaining about it when that was happening. Now that we only want to make sure we do not get any more of the terrorists from those countries, all the news stations act like it is terrible.
     
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    The media does have a left of centre bias, so whenever a person like Trump came into power they was always going to give him a hard time. The same is happening over here in the UK, and all we are seeing being reported is just how bad Theresa May is doing and not the good things. In recent years I do think that most of the countries leaders have been veering towards the left, so now countries are starting to shift over to the right, there was always going to be a backlash and that will only get worse.

    In a way left wing supporters are pining the blame directly on the people of the UK, those that voted for brexit (people like me) as the reason that rump got in, but as far as I see it, all the UK people did was show the world that if they aren't happy with the way YOUR country is being run, then you CAN change it. Americans weren't happy with the way The US was being run, so they voted for change and Trump is that change. Nigel Farage was the change over here, and while neither of them are particularly likeable characters, they do get things done.
     
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    Did the left wing push their luck all these years?

    It's interesting though how the media bullied W. Bush - and he wasn't a racist etc., but now Trump is in there, a guy with real support from the alt-right. Maybe the left shouldn't have been so hard on W. Bush.:-?

    I mean, honestly, did anyone REALLY think Bush was a Nazi?

    Gay parades on The Andy Griffith Show are one thing, o_O and many westerners are appalled. However, other aspects of the cultural left agenda are acceptable to most average westerners.

    By the way, given Trump's support of the US military, I don't think he is an isolationist alternative to another W. Bush.

    Trump has done some things to put unnecessary fuel on the fire. For instance, he called John McCain - a tortured POW in Vietnam - a loser because he was captured. If democrats had said that, they'd be torn apart by the right.
     
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    If I was an American citizen then I would not have voted for him. I think he is an awful person and I can't believe that he is the president of one of the most powerful countries. I read yesterday that he has been signing certain orders behind closed doors because he knows that they are controversial. He just signed an order that meant people with mental illnesses can get a gun a bit easier than before. Is this really something that the American people want? Does not the whole country not realise you have a problem with massacres and guns?
     
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    Most of the news agencies are owned by huge corporations that are supporting open borders, which our president is against. Therefore, the "news" that they report is truth that has been twisted to look entirely different than what really is going on here.
    President Trump is adamantly in support of our military and our veterans, and I am so excited that he is doing everything that he can to help these people who served our country.
    One of the restrictions that Obama did was to stop military veterans (who were on ANY kind of medication) from owning a gun, regardless of what the treatment was for.
    It is totally unfair to make it illegal for a person to own a weapon simply because he served in the military and is on some kind of pain medication for injuries received in combat.
    President Trump is fighting against this huge unfairness to our veterans, and believe me when I say that he has the support of the majority of the American citizens when it comes to caring about our veterans.
     
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    I really don't see the need for these weapons in the first place. But that's a whole different discussion. Fair enough if he his fighting against that but then should he not be trying to introduce some new laws to stop mentally ill people from getting guns as well? Does it not concern Americans that a mentally disabled person can just go to a shop, buy a gun and be free to do whatever he wants with it?

    I doubt the media is twisting it to make it seem totally different, I think a lot of these silly things come out straight from his mouth really.
     
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