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Is homosexuality a sexual fetish?

Discussion in 'Other' started by KenBrace, Aug 10, 2016.

  1. KenBrace Bird Administrator

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    Our childhood has a significant impact on our sexual desires as adults.

    Our first sexual experience, in particular, has a significant impact on our sexuality. Often lasting a lifetime.

    Adults who were molested as children have a much greater chance of becoming pedophiles themselves.

    I once heard of a doctor's kid who stumbled upon naked photos of amputees that were located in his father's office. He got all horny and beat off to the pics. Because of that experience, he developed a fetish for amputees that has consumed his sexuality throughout his adult life.

    I head of another guy who was playing a game (it was some sort of tag I think) with a group of girls as a child. This often involved tackling the other person, pinning them down, and covering their mouth. Because of that experience as a young child, the man developed a suffocation fetish. So to really get a boner, he dresses up in a swimsuit and has a prostitute cover his airway for temporary suffocation.

    Often certain types of people can be a fetish. Some guys have a fetish for red heads for example.

    Virtually any kind of sexual fetish imaginable can be manifested in someone's life if they experience the right kind of thing early on.

    We also know that some fetishes are more common than others.

    So is it possible that homosexuality is a type of fetish?

    I've noticed that a lot of lesbians have/had a bad relationship with their father. This has a significant impact on young girl early on and will permanently affect how she views men. This will naturally affect her childhood which in turn affects sexuality.

    The same goes with gay guys. At least from what I've seen, they also tend to have absent fathers.

    So speaking from my own experience, I have a sexual fetish of sorts (don't worry, nothing creepy :p). I'm not entirely sure how it came to be but it is definitely related to a 2-3 year section of my childhood that was really bad. I'm very much a straight guy but I do recall having a homosexual wet dream once. While it had no affect on my sexuality, it did help me to understand what it's like to be gay; and honestly, it felt very similar to a fetish.

    Most of this post is merely anecdotes and speculation but it's worth considering.

    Any thoughts?
     
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  2. jimbob Cat Moderator

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    For some homosexuals I would say yes, it is a fetish. But for others it is biological and natural for them.
     
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    This seems reasonable. Some gay men have a certain mannerism about them that can be seen from early childhood. This seems to be mostly biological.

    Some gay men aren't like this at all. With them, it seems to be more of a fetish. I believe this was the case with Jeffrey Dahmer.
     
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    Yeah, Ken hit it right on, but the consequences are massively creepy. Definitely with a lot of men it's degenerated to violence and/or really odd stuff. However, when does it stop? How about when Ted Bundy went out and kidnapped women or that Ariel Castro guy?

    Some mild fetishes are normal as long as it doesn't harm others. However, a position in theology would argue that our excess sin will ultimately hurt others. Therefore we have a debate right there.
     
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  5. KenBrace Bird Administrator

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    I think that usually sadism and violent sexual fetishes result from child abuse (particularly if it's sexual abuse).
     
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  6. Jason76 Cat Moderator

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    I guess it's like that handjob hospital on Japanese porn. You go to the hospital a lot and you think what would it be like if all these ladies were required to have sex. What if you had x-ray vision and you could see them naked? :D
     
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    The difference between a fetish and sexual orientation is that one (a fetish) might be caused by childhood experiences and the other (homosexuality) is caused by prenatal or genetic factors. Fetishes may or may not be socially acceptable (fixation on red heads or high heels is OK, fixation on animals and corpses, not so much).

    Homosexuality (and heterosexuality) are not changeable and fetishes are very difficult, if not impossible, to dislodge. Generally there isn't any reason to change fetishes, unless it gets in the way of one's life. If for instance a red head fetishists ends up marrying a blond, the fetish might be a problem.

    Ken's theory about childhood stimulation connected to certain objects MIGHT is plausible, but I'm not sure how one would go about proving it. If childhood objects were readily fetishized, why aren't more people sexually attached to and aroused by Lincoln Logs, Tonka Toys, and Lego bricks?

    Fetishes are not psychopathy; neither are they grossly disturbed behavior. (Psychopathy and various forms of grossly disturbed behavior are outside the range of behavior covered by the term "fetish".
     
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    The fact that such a large percentage of the population is homosexual does suggest that you most likely correct. Fetishes are usually a bit more rare and unique.

    I definitely believe that it can be a fetish though. In other words, I believe it is possible for a heterosexual man to get a boner for other dudes because of childhood experiences (being molested, encountering gay porn, etc.).
     
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    Actually only a small percentage of people in the population are gay. However, on dating websites there are so many gays it's shocking, especially in such a conservative area where I live. The screennames are funny cause it looks like people you'd think would be homophobic wearing hunting caps etc. :rolleyes:.

    Of course, males not getting a boner toward females is something I cannot understand.

    I really think a lot of the homophobic stuff is similar to the witch burning stuff of the middle ages or picking on nerds. I don't think it has to do with being gay, but is just a way to scorn misfits. Note one gets lumped in way gays for simply being an outspoken pagan, atheist, or just someone who annoys people. Also, if your accused of liking even straight porn or being a dirty person you also get thrown in the group.

    Of course, if your considered a smartass and criticize the local culture, then you REALLY get called homophobic slurs.
     
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    Yeah, I definitely phrased that wrong. What I meant is that the percentage of homos is large compared to fetishes (at least from what I know).

    I've never understood it either.
     
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    Gay slurs seem to be more directed at someone being a smartass or douchebag rather than for being gay. I don't think gays are picked on too much around here. People are mad at those they see who have a big mouth, challenging the social order.

    However, smartass or douchebag may not be what they are, but rather someone who simply doesn't agree with the social order and is vocal about it. It can be both of those though. :rolleyes:
     
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    I have done a little research on homosexuality during my college days as part of the Psychology subject. Although not conclusive, my opinion on the issue is that homosexuality is both acquired and inborn.

    For the inborn, I have known so many in my circle that they are already effeminate since they were kids. I have a cousin who acts like a girl since he was a boy. He is now 30 and has a girlfriend but I believe that he is just trying to fight that girlie feeling, poor girlfriend. One nephew of another cousin is like him. And he changed his gender when he went to college.

    For the acquired, one of my childhood playmate who was a bully turned out to be gay huh. It was really unimaginable for me when I learned about it. His name is Cesar and he was 14 when he changed color, so to speak. He used to be our hitman, meaning he would fight any boy in our neighborhood because he is that macho. And then he became gay. Worse, he had influenced his younger brother and a cousin. All 3 of them are certified gays until now.
     
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    However we are and our preferances are perhaps the end results of our genotypes and phenotypes. Of course environmental stimuli shapes our thinking and reactions greatly.

    So its very possible that you could end up bi or homo-sexual because that was all others around you were doing. It is what you found normal or like. Of course, it is not an addiction but just a way of life that you have come to find right for you.

    For many others hormones messes up their body and mind.

    The final expression of a sexual orientation may be therefore a cummulative product of both genotype and environmental experiences.
     
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    There are so many strange fetishes out there and some have very little to do with sex...bottom line, I guess whatever does it for you is what's normal for you...as long as it's legal and if you're with a partner...it's consensual.

    As long as it's those two things...legal and consensual...do whatever you want. :)

    Think there was even a show once about weird sexual fetishes...some were bizarre. I'll try anything once...if it's not too weird.
     
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    Homosexuality is wrong - unless it's two hot attractive women. :eek:
     
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    From where did you acquire your double standards?
     
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    From porn ~X(
     
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